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since boulders in my gym are only color-graded and dont have an actual font-scale attached to them, inputing grades when logging a climb can feel very hit or miss.

most gyms have a chart somewhere lying around that equates their color-code to a range on the font (or v-) scale. i have attached such a table for my local gym.

anyway, when adding a gym to the app, let me select what color of holds they use AND also what grade they roughly refer to. that way, when logging a climb i only need to select the color of the hold and maybe have a + or - to select if the climb was on the harder or softer side; and the system can translate that in the background to an actual grade without me having to remember anything. i know this would only be a guesstimate on the side of the app, but it would be roughly right and enough for training-purposes

thanks for considering

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Posted by conirhawk ·
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  • Shahar Noy

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    Feb 13

    Hi @conirhawk , to be honest I think this kind of addition defeats the purpose of a consistent progress monitoring the app tries to promote. As you can see in the image you attached, grades mapping in Bouldergarten are inconsistent with colors (i.e. 6b can be Blue, Red or purple) - it’s a great example for why differently from other apps i’m not suggesting a grade system, since I think in those cases logging your climbs between 1-6 (6 colors 1-6) is the best option. Then you also have the option to use “my grade” to put your personal “feeling” about this grade.

    Overall it allows you to combine systems from different gyms and still measure progress in a consistent way.

    • conirhawk

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      Feb 14

      i see, so you arent inputing actual grades into the loging mask but the numerical value of the color in a certain gym? e.g. if you climb “a red boulder” at bouldergarten you would write “4” in your log?

      in that case, i would still like to see that we can input the numbers coresponding to a color when creating/editing the gym. so, grren=1, orange=2, blue=3 etc. that way i only have to select the color because the app allready knows the number. instead of two inputs, that are always the same/equivalent, i only have one input. additionaly the app could only show the available hold colors at that certain gym, streamlining the process further - because if the gym only has 6 hold-colors i dont need to see all 13 that are available in the app on default.

      anyway, i am sorry if i am spaming you with suggestions

      • Shahar Noy

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        Feb 14

        oh, I think I understand where the confusion coming from.

        For grade and my grade - I use only numeric values of 1-6 since in most gyms I go to that’s The ranking system. If I go to another gym that has 1-8 and I climb 7, i’ll will put 7 at the official grade but in “my grade” i’ll put 5 (assuming the 7 in one gym is the equivalent to 5 in my gym).

        The hold color section in the bottom of the log form is not for the grades, but for the actual holds you used in the boulder - so if you climbed a Red problem in Bouldergarten that had white holds - i’ll put number 4 in the grade and select white in the holds color.

        Note - the hold color has no impact anywhere, it's solely for visualization purposes.

        And not spamming at all !

        • conirhawk

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          Feb 14

          “so if you climbed a Red problem in Bouldergarten that had white holds - i’ll put number 4 in the grade and select white in the holds color.”

          i think this is where we disagree, i dont belive that having the colors of the holds is actually usefull information. i cant think if a situation where i would want to know the color of the holds when i look trough my log a few weeks/months from now. especially since the same hold-set can come in different colors. its not a good indcator for anything.

          whereas if you use the color-tag in the app for the color-code of the routes you can input two variables at the same time, difficulty and color-tag - both of these are -imo- way more usefull down the line

          for me, the color tag is usefull so i can see at first glance

          1. how the difficulty is distributed in my log. how many red/violet routes did i climb

          2. if it was an actual boulder-route or if it was a board climb when i look at the log